. >> sarah palin, people watched it the way you watch a nascar race with a fascination that there may be an accident or a wreck. but with the debate coming up, there is this tension on the ticket, republican ticket, between paul ryan who campaigns and gave the speech remember at the convention, there was archly ideological about creating a new world that the president has described at darwinian and pessimistic and dark. and he gives joe biden a lot of lines of attack on the ryan budget, the medicare plan and all those things. the one thing that ryan has done for the last two years has been very, very, did i say very, very specific about all these things. so he can't do the peer wets the way mitt romney did, but i think what joe biden's task is going to be is to bo right past ryan and to usewets the way mitt romney did, but i think what joe biden's task is going to be is to bo right past ryan and to use this occasion to go after the guy he's running with. people don't care that much about ryan, only that he's a stand-in -- >> that's my point, he'll have a hard time defending some of th